Subject: Response to kidfromkor
In Response to kidfromkor:
I agree that its pretty shitty that
two little girls got run over by an armored vehicle. But, before
you pass judgement on the United States as a whole, remember why
those US soldiers are in Korea in the first place. 27,704 US soldiers,
including some of my own relatives, died fighting communist Chinese
and North Korean forces for democracy in South Korea. I guess thats
"what a fucking country US is"
Subject: (No subject)
Kidfromko wrote about the death of
two Korean girls and the subsequent acquittal of two American soldiers.
I feel as if I should comment on this, and I have a right to as
an American currently living in Korea who has got a knife pulled
on me as result of this incident even though I am not even a soldier,
just an American. I do not know the full details of the situation
nor does the email writer. I will say driving a large tracked vehical
is not like driving a car, your vision is obscured and in this case
the radio was broken so the commander could not warn the driver.
it may have been the soldiers fault I do not know. I do know the
law does not state whenever a US soldier commits a crime they are
not accountable. They are not accountable to the Korean justice
system when, as in this case, they committed a crime while on duty.
They still were subject to a court martial even though an initial
investigation ruled there wasn't enough evidence to hold one. This
court martial found them innocent, and I actually respect this process
as it relates to things that happen in non war time situations.
I am not saying it doesn't suck that two young girls ended up dead,
it does and apologies have been made. Not that makes things right,
but even so.
My big problem is Koreans complaining
endless, it many situations not just this one, about American soldiers,
who I admit from experience here many of whom are assholes, who
are defending there country. If theygovernmenternement really had
a problem with them they could demand they leave. They are not doing
this instead they are using it for election propaganda about how
they would reform the proceexpelt expell the soldiers. I would also
like to ask the author how many Korean men have raped Korean women
and gotten away with it, many more than American soldiers. Again
I don't want anydistracts to dtheact from teh fact that two girls
died and that sucks.
subject: dead korean girls
Although I do not know the details of what happened in that unfortunate
accident, I'm sure there were mitigating circumstances involved
(i.e. a closed training area that the girls were not supposed to
be in etc.) I cannot and I'm sure the US military officials do not
condone killing innocent people, it is something that is taken extremely
seriously and after thoroughly investigating it, the incident was
found to be just a horrible accident with no malicious intent. Over
58,000 US military personnel died in their defense during the Korean
War and the US has contributed billions of dollars to their economy
to help make them the great nation they are now. With North Korea
having over 1.4 million troops within 30Km of the DMZ and North
Korea just declaring they have nuclear weapons, I hope they understand
that US forces are willing to die again to defend their nation.
I know we have our faults, as any cultures do, but we do mean well.
Thank you. I love your site.
Subject: in ref of the Korean School Girls killed.
I would like to say how sorry I am
to the families of the girls that were killed in a terrible accident.
But accident it was. If these soldiers had done this on purpose
I would be all for punishment, but this was a accident. The United
States is often viewed in a evil light. It is USA that keeps that
country in a democratic and free state that allows for people like
kidforkor to express their opinions. I wonder if this had been a
Korean who had a accident killing these poor girls would it had
been viewed in the same light? My father did 2 tours in Korea, one
of them during wartime, he fought not only for the USA but also
for Korean freedom, My brother also served in Korea while he was
in the Military. I like this site, please don't turn it into a USA
Subject: Response to Kidfromkor
Apparently you are a kid ... you know
nothing about US military equipment and weapons nor do you know
anything about military Law and international law. The US military
is not in a campaign to commit crimes and go unpunished...but your
very narrow mind accents your very narrow eyes.
The US military and its personnel
provide a presence that keeps the North Korean communist off your
ass. Be thankful they are there dumb ass.
Now, this is a most unfortunate accident
and should not go unnoticed ...a tank/armored personnel carrier
has limited vision.. and although the troops driving are trained
it can be easy to lose track of object close to the tank due to
the fact that your looking out of an envelope size window.
so no, a tank does not travel fast but can be difficult
to navigate ... have you ever driven one???
As far as law goes the US military
tries its personnel under what is known as the UCMJ (uniformed code
of military justice) and in most cases provides for incarceration
and trial by a military board.
all of the contents of law as it relates
to US personnel is agreed to by the South Korean goverment.. and
in rare cases a US military member can be tried by a civilian court.
So listen Dumb ass ... don't jump
to conclusions till you educate yourself and be thankful that your
ass wasn't under that tank. and be more thankful that the US military
is there because without them your ass would be communist by now.
Try being a little more appreciative.
For the site, and for the 'kidfromkor'
The pic. appeared in one of our local papers.
Subject: american reply to korean rant and pics
In response to the "kidfromkor"
rant: as an american, I feel compelled to say something. There are
plenty of things of which you can critize the US, and a rant where
you present your case logically would be accepted, but when you
hear a tank coming down the road, get the fuck out of the way!
Subject: Fwd Please
Please forward to the little Korean bastard that likes to badmouth
the only probable friend his country has:
Dear Mr Asswipe,
The next time there are a half million or so Chinese about to overrun
your country and turn you into Bok choi, Please accept this advice:
Stick your head up your ass and Fuck yourself with it while yelling
for some other "friend" country to come save your whiney
Over 300,000 brave American, British,
Australian and other Nationalities died keeping you free, you ungrateful
fuck. I, as an American, am truly sorry that any child is killed,
but we cannot allow our troops to be tried in a country we are there
to protect. The reasons, if you will stop to think, are obvious.
America is NOT perfect. But by God we try to help those who can
not help thereselves. ( Good or Bad, as this may be a matter of
personal opinion ) It is the ungrateful assholes like you, that
make Any death unfortunate. I am sure the many millions of Koreans
we aided would not share your view. But, as I said, we are not perfect
and we should punish any soldier who harms any child.
Subject: In response to kidfromkor's crap
Replying to kidfromkor:
Being in the U.S. military and having
lived in Seoul for 3 1/2 years, I have the following observations
to report to you, dumb ass:
1. That fucking tank's not moving
at 60 kph is right. Guess they should have moved. It's sort of like
the dude getting run over in Austin Powers with the 2kph steamroller,
Koreans should remember that there
is an agreement between the two countries regarding jurisdiction
and due process and this was what was followed. It's terrible they
were killed, but accidents do happen.
They should also remember to look
both way when crossing the street and to walk against traffic and
not with it.
2. As for "hundreds of cases
where US soldier raped a Korean woman and just be sent back to the
US without any punishment"? Here's a typical Korean "rape"
case for you, G.I. goes to bar, gets his wallet (and pecker) vacuumed
by a professional Korean "hostess" and then won't pony
up more when told the cognac he bought the bitch run $200 a piece
instead of the advertised $20 and the word "rape" gets
thrown about to the local press.
There are cases of abuse, rape, and
other violent crime by U.S. service members in Korea, however, these
are blown way out of proportion and no statistics are ever presented
by protesters comparing the crime rates among U.S. personnel with
local crime rates.
3. Anyone who has ever driven in the
traffic hell that is Korea can bear witness to the hundreds of accidents
that occur daily. They even have digital signposts giving the number
of deaths and injuries for the past 24 hours (or the entire weekend
for the case of holidays). It is a dangerous place to be a pedestrian,
motorcyclist, bridge user or department store shopper. (Do a search
on Sungsoo Bridge Korea Collapse or Sampoong Department Store Korea
4. Oh yeah, my point...fuck off. My
guess is you lost your honey to some G.I. when she got a taste of
"Western Culture". After all, how do you think I got my
Subject: armored vehicle incident
I'm writing to reply to kidfromkor's
comments and pictures about the Korean girls who were run over by
a US Army armored vehicle. It was a tragic accident that this occured
but it was not the fault of the driver of the vehicle nor the commander
of the vehicle. They were not tried in a US court as kidfromkor
claims, they were tried in a military court and found not responsible
for the accident. They are US servicemen and therefore fall under
the Code of Military Justice, not Korean laws. In addition, the
girls were not run over on purpose as is implied, the driver is
on the left side of the vehicle and his view was obstructed by the
vehicle and could not see the girls. The commander of the vehicle
was supposed to be his "eyes" on the right side but the
radio the two use to communicate was not functioning properly and
the commander was unable to warn the driver of the two girls along
It was a horribly unfortunate accident
that occured and the United States has apologized. I'd like to remind
kidfromkor that it is the United States military that is protecting
his nation from 800,000 North Koreans storming across the DMZ. Perhaps
if he joined his country's military and convinced his friends to
do as well, the US would not need to keep 20,000 Army soldiers in
South Korea away from their homes and families.
The Pennsylvania State University Army ROTC
Subject: Korean Girls
Just a quick point about the pics
of the two Korean girls dead on the side of the road. While I agree
with the guy that who ever did that should be punished there is
no evidence what so ever as to what they were killed byin those
pics. Now I am not claiming to be an expert here nor am I a supporter
of any military but from what I know from the good old discovery
channel, an American tank weighs about 60 metric tons. As bad as
they look, those bodies do not look like something that got run
over by a vehicle weighing 60T. Secondly had it just hit and not
actually run them over how do you explain the rips etc. that look
more like they were run over. What it looks like to me is some guy
trying to advance his own political views through home made propaganda.